tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5737363348560792808.post6607632101571382645..comments2023-03-31T13:01:14.111-04:00Comments on The Suburban Voluntaryist: Scary Speeches?Debbie H.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02209691050549648880noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5737363348560792808.post-50414088527375950812009-09-09T10:36:12.980-04:002009-09-09T10:36:12.980-04:00Well, I thought wasn't into the idea of wantin...Well, I thought wasn't into the idea of wanting to pledge allegiance to a flag. It's kind of a bit of idol worship. I don't need to pledge allegiance to a flag or country to be satisfied or to satisfy anyone. The country itself didn't do anything. The individuals in my life have.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12551505502580310385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5737363348560792808.post-87755947144024729372009-09-09T10:30:53.529-04:002009-09-09T10:30:53.529-04:00Wow, well said guys! Nick what happened to make yo...Wow, well said guys! Nick what happened to make you opt out of the pledge in highschool? I certainly wasn't thinking about these things that young? Was it a book you read, or perhaps an experience you had?Debbie H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02209691050549648880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5737363348560792808.post-54450424115407636102009-09-07T15:55:36.595-04:002009-09-07T15:55:36.595-04:00Excellent point. Why anyone parks his or her kids...Excellent point. Why anyone parks his or her kids in the government's un-education and indoctrination prison-factories, and then affects to see some distinction between a speech from <i>El Presidente</i> and the more-professional propaganda in which they are soaked all day, each and every day, is a bit hard to fathom.Jim Wetzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07358539074647113747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5737363348560792808.post-46296765061212578822009-09-06T22:42:50.948-04:002009-09-06T22:42:50.948-04:00I went to public school. And yeah, indoctrination ...I went to public school. And yeah, indoctrination is pretty much the big thing lol. I remember doing the pledge of allegiance in elementary school and then I opted out of it when it came up again in high school. I have no interest in pledging allegiance to a piece of fabric. I do consider myself an American...but choosing to associate with a country and pledging allegiance to a colorful flag are two different things. And of course, history and govt classes was taken from the govt's perspective, etc, etc. <br /><br />I think the reason parents put their kids in govt schools is because of the glorification of public school as well as the fact that well...it's "free" whereas many private schools can be expensive as the govt pretty much has a monopoly on the school system. There are certainly individual public school teachers that are quite good at their job and well-accomplished students that come out of public schools. But, there are a lot of problems, beyond govt indoctrination, including being a massive money drain and a one-size-fits-all policy that can frustrate both teachers and students that I think a free-market system would deal with much better. There was a time before most of the schools in the country were govt-owned.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12551505502580310385noreply@blogger.com